Beyond the Octagon: The Controversy and Redemption of Wang Baoqiang’s ‘Never Say Never’
In my two decades covering global sports—from the electric atmosphere of the FIFA World Cup to the disciplined intensity of the Olympic Games—I have learned that the most compelling stories aren’t always found on the scoreboard. Sometimes, they are found in the friction between a cinematic narrative and a complicated reality. This is exactly where Wang Baoqiang’s 2023 film, Never Say Never (八角笼中), resides.
The film, which Wang Baoqiang both directed and starred in, isn’t just a sports movie; it is a lightning rod for debate regarding social mobility, the ethics of youth coaching, and the thin line between mentorship and exploitation. At its heart, the Never Say Never movie controversy centers on whether the film’s depiction of “fighting orphans” is a tribute to resilience or a sanitized version of a much darker real-world incident.
The Narrative: A Fight for a Future
For those unfamiliar with the plot, the film follows Xiang Tenghui, played by Wang Baoqiang. Xiang is a former combat sports champion whose career was derailed by a framing incident involving banned substances. Broken and adrift, he eventually finds a new purpose by taking in a group of impoverished children from the mountains of Sichuan. He trains them in mixed martial arts (MMA), hoping that the discipline and skill of the “octagon” can provide these children with a path out of poverty that their birthright denied them.
It is a classic underdog story. We see the grit, the sweat, and the eventual triumph of children who have nothing but their will to survive. The film’s emotional core is anchored by the relationships between Xiang and the boys, particularly characters like Mahu and Sumu, who view their coach as a lifeline.
From a technical standpoint, the film succeeded in capturing the raw energy of combat sports. However, the drama inside the cinema was quickly eclipsed by the drama in the press.
The Reality: The Daliangshan Fighting Orphans
The film is loosely based on the “fighting orphans” incident in the Daliangshan region of Sichuan, China. In the real-world precursor to the movie, reports emerged of children from impoverished backgrounds being trained in combat sports, leading to public outcry and government investigations into whether these children were being exploited for profit by their trainers.
This is where the friction begins. Although the movie presents the training as a benevolent act of salvation, critics and real-world reports questioned the motives of the actual figures involved in the Daliangshan events. The tension lies in the gap between the cinematic “savior” and the real-world “operator.”
For a global audience, this mirrors debates we often see in Western sports—such as the complexities of youth academies in soccer or the pressures placed on teenage phenoms in the NBA. The question remains: when does a coach stop being a mentor and start being a manager of human capital?
The Conflict: Rumors, Baseball, and “The Truth”
As the film gained traction, it became a battleground for claims regarding the authenticity of the children’s backgrounds. A significant point of contention emerged regarding the status of the children depicted as “orphans” or “abandoned.”
In some reports, the narrative of the “destitute orphan” was challenged. Specifically, claims surfaced—attributed to figures such as a “Coach Sun”—suggesting that the reality was far less tragic than the movie portrayed. These reports emphasized that certain children, such as the one the character “Mahu” was based on, were not actually uncared-for orphans. Instead, it was claimed that the individual was a skilled athlete in his own right—a youth national baseball champion who had not dropped out of school.
If true, this detail fundamentally shifts the story. It transforms the narrative from one of “saving the abandoned” to one of “training the talented.” While this might seem like a minor distinction to some, in the world of sports journalism, the difference between a rescue mission and a talent pipeline is everything.
Wang Baoqiang has faced years of public scrutiny and misunderstandings, moving from his early days as a “grassroots” actor to a powerhouse filmmaker. The controversy surrounding Never Say Never is perhaps the most complex chapter of his career, as it forces the audience to decide if they are watching a documentary of the heart or a carefully curated piece of propaganda.
By the Numbers: A Commercial Juggernaut
Regardless of the ethical debate, the film’s impact on the Chinese box office was undeniable. The numbers illustrate a massive public appetite for stories of struggle and redemption.
| Metric | Detail |
|---|---|
| Release Date | July 6, 2023 |
| Total Box Office | 2.207 Billion RMB |
| Pre-release Buzz | Over 400 Million RMB (Pre-sales & Pre-screenings) |
| Runtime | 117 Minutes |
The film’s ability to shatter pre-screening records—surpassing the marks set by the film The Eight Hundred—shows that the theme of the “marginalized fighter” resonates deeply with a global audience. People desire to believe in the possibility of the octagon as a gateway to a better life.
Editorial Perspective: The Ethics of the Octagon
As an editor who has seen the systemic pressures of professional sports, I locate the Never Say Never discourse fascinating. In combat sports, the “hunger” of an athlete is often romanticized. We love the story of the fighter who came from nothing because it validates the idea of meritocracy—that if you fight hard enough, you can escape your circumstances.

However, we must be careful not to romanticize poverty as a prerequisite for greatness. When a film blends real-life tragedy with cinematic inspiration, it risks blurring the line between advocacy and entertainment. The claims that some of the “orphans” were actually accomplished baseball players serve as a reminder that the truth is often less “cinematic” and more nuanced than a screenplay allows.
The real victory in the Never Say Never saga isn’t the box office total or the awards; it is the conversation it sparked about the protection of youth athletes and the transparency of sports programs in impoverished regions.
Key Takeaways
- Cinematic vs. Reality: While the film portrays a benevolent rescue of orphans, real-world reports from the Daliangshan incident suggest a more complex relationship between trainers and athletes.
- The “Baseball” Discrepancy: Claims have emerged that some of the children were not orphans but established youth athletes, specifically in baseball, challenging the “destitute” narrative.
- Commercial Success: Despite the controversy, the film earned over 2.2 billion RMB, proving the enduring appeal of the underdog sports trope.
- Wang Baoqiang’s Evolution: The project marks a significant shift for Wang from a comedic actor to a director tackling heavy social issues.
The legacy of Never Say Never will likely be defined by this tension. It stands as a testament to the power of sports to inspire, but as well as a cautionary tale about the narratives we build around those who fight for a way out.
For more updates on international sports cinema and the intersection of athletics and society, stay tuned to Archysport. We will continue to monitor the developments regarding youth sports regulations in the region.
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